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Scottish inquiry could help Hollie Greig campaigner

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19 November 2014
 
Warrington Guardian: Photograph of the Author
by Matthew Hobbs, Reporter
AN Appleton man’s campaign for a Down’s syndrome girl allegedly abused by a paedophile ring could benefit from a proposed public inquiry in Scotland.
Labour MSP and justice spokesman Graeme Pearson is calling for an inquiry into historical cases of child sex abuse in Scotland, amid claims abuse was widespread.

The Scottish Government is due to make a decision on whether to hold an inquiry by Christmas.
Rob Green, aged 68, of Birchdale Road, has headed the long-running campaign on behalf of Hollie Greig, who claims to have been abused for 14 years by people in positions of power in Aberdeen.

The allegations have been reported to Grampian Police, but no arrests have been made, due to a lack of ‘corroborative’ evidence.
An email from Mr Pearson, a former senior police officer, has indicated he believes Hollie’s claims ‘will benefit’ should an inquiry be launched.

In the email, he said: “Should I be successful in my efforts I have no doubt your campaign will benefit alongside many others.”

Mr Green said: “All we have ever asked for is a formal investigation into the evidence provided by Hollie.”

 

Comments (9)

Wed 19 Nov 14

Freeborn John says…

Mr Green has harmed nobody, yet has been put into prison twice because he won’t shut up about this.
Compare that to the treatment of the career criminal fraternity who are given another chance and another chance.
Something stinks.

Mr Green has harmed nobody, yet has been put into prison twice because he won’t shut up about this. Compare that to the treatment of the career criminal fraternity who are given another chance and another chance. Something stinks. Freeborn John

7:55am Sat 22 Nov 14

Steven Johnson says…

Sad to see that Warrington Guardian is giving the oxygen of publicity to the delusional Mr Green.

Hollie Greig’s mother, who has a history of mental illness, alleged that Hollie told her that she had been abused by a number of people. Those named were all people whom her mother had fallen out with around the time her marriage broke down. The police did not investigate because there was not a shred of evidence to support the claims.

It was also claimed that other children were abused along with Hollie. These were all children of former friends of Hollie’s mother whom she had fallen out with. They are all now in their thirties and have made public statements denying they were ever abused.

Green has a prior record in this area.When his travel agency went bankrupt he claimed that he was a victim of a massive conspiracy involving senior figures in the travel industry, Mp’s and police. He conducted a campaign of harassment which led to a restraining order being taken out against him.

Sad to see that Warrington Guardian is giving the oxygen of publicity to the delusional Mr Green. Hollie Greig’s mother, who has a history of mental illness, alleged that Hollie told her that she had been abused by a number of people. Those named were all people whom her mother had fallen out with around the time her marriage broke down. The police did not investigate because there was not a shred of evidence to support the claims. It was also claimed that other children were abused along with Hollie. These were all children of former friends of Hollie’s mother whom she had fallen out with. They are all now in their thirties and have made public statements denying they were ever abused. Green has a prior record in this area.When his travel agency went bankrupt he claimed that he was a victim of a massive conspiracy involving senior figures in the travel industry,Mp’s and police. He conducted a campaign of harassment which led to a restraining order being taken out against him. Steven Johnson

9:30am Sat 22 Nov 14

Freeborn John says…

Mr Greens allegations of nonces in high places do seem rather odd, though with the current investigation into historic paedophile activity in Westminster, you do have to wonder.
But right or wrong, throwing a man into prison just for making some politicians uncomfortable is an outrageous abuse of the law.

Mr Greens allegations of nonces in high places do seem rather odd, though with the current investigation into historic paedophile activity in Westminster, you do have to wonder. But right or wrong, throwing a man into prison just for making some politicians uncomfortable is an outrageous abuse of the law. Freeborn John

5:21pm Sat 22 Nov 14

Steven Johnson says…

Mr Green was not jailed for “making some politicians uncomfortable”. He was jailed for breaching the peace by sending letters to ordinary people which falsely claimed that some of their neighbours were paedophiles who had raped their own children as well as a young woman with Downs Syndrome.

Mr Green was not jailed for “making some politicians uncomfortable”. He was jailed for breaching the peace by sending letters to ordinary people which falsely claimed that some of their neighbours were paedophiles who had raped their own children as well as a young woman with Downs Syndrome. Steven Johnson

1:59am Sun 23 Nov 14

Malogg says…

Obviously someone does not realise the very existence of the infamous anomalies apon Hollies medical records as a child screams that Hollie was abused…Even the alleged sheriffs solicitors state clearly and say within a letter to Mr Green that Hollie may well have been abused by her father and brother and it goes on to say that Hollie may well have been abused by others…
Although a FULL INDEPENDENT public enquiry would ultimately eliminate any of the UN-INVESTIGATED / UN-QUESTIONED alleged… IN-JUSTICE !!…

Obviously someone does not realise the very existence of the infamous anomalies apon Hollies medical records as a child screams that Hollie was abused…Even the alleged sheriffs solicitors state clearly and say within a letter to Mr Green that Hollie may well have been abused by her father and brother and it goes on to say that Hollie may well have been abused by others… Although a FULL INDEPENDENT public enquiry would ultimately eliminate any of the UN-INVESTIGATED / UN-QUESTIONED alleged… IN-JUSTICE !!… Malogg

1:12pm Sun 23 Nov 14

Gillian Swanson says…

Good to see this case being publicised in Mr Green’s home town, but there is a slight error in the report: to be strictly accurate, “no arrests have been made, due to a lack of ‘corroborative’ evidence” should read “no arrests have been made, due to AN ALLEGED lack of ‘corroborative’ evidence”. Anyone who takes the time to investigate the facts, rather than relying, like a previous poster, on well-publicised disinformation, will know that the evidence supporting Hollie’s claims is impressive, and includes medical and psychological reports as well as police reports and testimony. However, despite this wealth of documentary evidence, the Aberdeen police and the Crown Office in Edinburgh have so far not seen fit to take things further: indeed, when questioned under oath at Robert Green’s trial, in 2010, DC Lisa Evans of Grampian admitted that none of the 22 people named to her by Hollie in a gruelling three-and-a-half hour interrogation in September 2009 had subsequently been questioned, nor were their computers seized or even superficially examined. Hollie’s earliest tormentors, her father and her brother – people she could hardly have mis-identified, and whom a police report describes as being “known to have a predilection for very young girls” – were even allowed to leave the country! One wonders how many rape cases would ever make it into court, if evidence of the standard available in this instance were discounted. Let’s hope that Graeme Pearson is successful in securing an investigation into this and other apparent injustices in Scotland – and that Theresa May will lose no more time in setting up the promised inquiry into similar neglected cases south of the border: though recent revelations by both survivors of abuse and retired police officers suggest that what is required is not so much a highly sanitised inquiry into things past as the arrest and trial of prominent establishment figures who have been named by multiple victims as rapists, and of those in high places who have ensured that these powerful criminals have, to date, remained immune from prosecution.

Good to see this case being publicised in Mr Green’s home town, but there is a slight error in the report: to be strictly accurate, “no arrests have been made, due to a lack of ‘corroborative’ evidence” should read “no arrests have been made, due to AN ALLEGED lack of ‘corroborative’ evidence”. Anyone who takes the time to investigate the facts, rather than relying, like a previous poster, on well-publicised disinformation, will know that the evidence supporting Hollie’s claims is impressive, and includes medical and psychological reports as well as police reports and testimony. However, despite this wealth of documentary evidence, the Aberdeen police and the Crown Office in Edinburgh have so far not seen fit to take things further: indeed, when questioned under oath at Robert Green’s trial, in 2010, DC Lisa Evans of Grampian admitted that none of the 22 people named to her by Hollie in a gruelling three-and-a-half hour interrogation in September 2009 had subsequently been questioned, nor were their computers seized or even superficially examined. Hollie’s earliest tormentors, her father and her brother – people she could hardly have mis-identified, and whom a police report describes as being “known to have a predilection for very young girls” – were even allowed to leave the country! One wonders how many rape cases would ever make it into court, if evidence of the standard available in this instance were discounted. Let’s hope that Graeme Pearson is successful in securing an investigation into this and other apparent injustices in Scotland – and that Theresa May will lose no more time in setting up the promised inquiry into similar neglected cases south of the border: though recent revelations by both survivors of abuse and retired police officers suggest that what is required is not so much a highly sanitised inquiry into things past as the arrest and trial of prominent establishment figures who have been named by multiple victims as rapists, and of those in high places who have ensured that these powerful criminals have, to date, remained immune from prosecution. Gillian Swanson

 

1:50pm Sun 23 Nov 14

david3820 says…

Mr Steven Johnson (or is it John Stevenson?) talks about there not being a shred of evidence; there are five medical and specialist reports and a detailed and consistent testimony from the victim, surely enough to start a thorough investigation?

Police Scotland and the Crown Office do not claim the allegations were not investigated due to lack of evidence, they claim that the allegations were thoroughly investigated. This claim is clearly false but it should be noted that no-one, not event the prosecuting authorities who have been delinquent in their duties, is taking the line of Mr Johnson.

Finally, Hollie was awarded £13,500 compensation as a victim of crime – child rape; this would not have happened without much more than a “shred of evidence”.

The Hollie Greig case and the subsequent persecution of those who have publicly called for justice should be included in a UK-wide thorough public inquiry – A Royal Commission

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