Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:24:37 +0000Subject: Re: FW: FW: greg lance watkins inc 509 05/02/2013From: o: Michelle.Pitson@gloucestershire.pnn.police.uk
Thanks you however a few points you should perhaps take on board
,I will now release this far and wide
1) It’s irrelevant whether the victims have complained or not; the offence is I believe, one of strict liability.
2) You did not ask to meet with them – quite the reverse. You refused to do so but outlined certain conditions where you might consider it.
3) It is not the job of a Police Sergeant to arbitrate on the law. – Especially in matters which have (and you can refer them to my blog idf you like) the potential to have VERY serious cross-border implications.
– The point being that these three Sergeants are arbitrating to the effect that the victims of sex crimes in Scotland are not afforded the same protection as the victims of sex crimes anywhere else in the world! I suggest they are not qualified to do so.
4) The basis of the offence had been detailled they are obliged to investigate and pass the matter on for the consideration of the CPS.
5) Grampian Police have no Jurisdiction whatsoever in relation to the specific matters reported.
6) The Police are not enitled to demand that you report matters in person.
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Pitson, Michelle wrote:
We have reviewed your information. Thank you for contacting us.
We are not taking any action regarding this.
There are no complaints from any alleged victims, we have liaised with Grampian Police. Three independent Sergeants have reviewed this case .
We will not be meeting you with a member of the press present.
You are welcome to attend Coleford Police Station in person to report the matter if you have any further information,
Police Sergeant 1392
8To: Pitson, Michelle
Subject: Re: FW: greg lance watkins inc 509 05/02/2013
Hi can you please advise where you are with this complaint please?
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:46 PM,
Dear PC Pitson,
Thank you for your email of Thursday the 7th of February 2013 at 09:55hrs.
I am disinclined to enter into any discussion over these matters on the telephone or in person without the presence of a witness from the Scottish press and possibly a solicitor. The reason for this is that I require an accurate record of how my complaint is progressed.
For clarity, and the avoidance of any doubt, the allegation I am placing before you is that between November 2009 and March 2010 Greg Lance Watkins, currently of HOME COTTAGE, STROAT, NP16 7LR, published information likely to lead members of the public to identify a person as someone against whom a sexual offence was alleged to have been committed; this is contrary to the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 1992 the Sexual and the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 1976 as amended by the Criminal Justice Act 1988.
I require you to instigate and investigation into this matter and advise me of the allocated crime number. Should you fail or refuse to do so I will be raising a formal compliant at a senior level.
Before going into detail I will clarify certain specific points in relation to the alleged offence I am reporting to you. To the best of my knowledge and understanding:
1) In terms of the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 1992 the offence is completed by the mere naming of a given individual as a person against whom certain acts are alleged have been committed. There is no requirement for an actual crime to be in any way evidenced or the allegation to be based on any fact.
2) For further clarity, in relation to point (1) it is the allegation that certain specified acts were carried out against a person that completes the offence entirely – there being no requirement to define a locus for these acts, and no defence available to a person charged under the provisions in respect of locus. –The matter or question of locus is entirely irrelevant.
3) Factually, Mr Lance-Watkins does not in any case provide information in respect any locus in relation to these alleged crimes he claims these people were victim of.
4) Mr Lance-Watkins published these allegations from his previous home in Chepstow and was therefore entirely within the jurisdiction covered by the aforementioned statues at the time of the alleged offences.
5) The fact that Mr Lance-Watkins claims to be repeating information given to him by third parties is irrelevant. I believe precedent supports the view that each instance of contravention of the specified statutes completes a new offence.
My statement and report is as follows…
From mid-2009 until, I believe early 2012, Greg Lance-Watkins was the author and sole controller of an internet blog known as Stolenkids-Hollie. This blog concerned itself with allegations in relation to the Hollie Greig case, a matter considered by Grampian Police.
In mid November 2009, on the ‘stolen kids’ blog, an entry entitled “Dramatis Personae – SK-H018”, carried a list of various names and addresses.
Under the heading “THE KNOWN & BELIEVED VICTIMS BESIDES HOLLIE GREIG” were four firmly identified names, two tentatively identified names and two others identified as the ‘child’ of certain named adult individuals…
For the avoidance of any doubt I am alleging here that Greg Lance Watkins published the names of at least four alleged victims of a sex crime and sufficient information to reveal the identities of at least two others contrary to the provision of the above named statutes. I have appended the text of that post at appendix 1.
I herein witness that this text was live copy on the afore-referenced blog on the 18th of January 2010. Further…
On or about Wednesday the 24th of March 2010 I viewed a page on that blog entitled
SK-H143 – Scottish Government Cover-Up of Hollie Greig – DUNBLANE & LOCKERBIEIn this entry Greg Lance-Watkins again reproduced the names of four individuals – with slight variance to his original publication – he alleges are victims of sex crimes. He also produced sufficient information for the identity of four others to be revealed. – Again this is contrary to the above noted statutes.
I have appended the text of that post at appendix 2. I herein witness that this text was live copy on the afore-referenced blog on or about the 23rd of March 2010.
However, for the avoidance of any doubt, central to my concerns and complaint is the following passage –
“THE KNOWN & BELIEVED VICTIMS BESIDES HOLLIE GREIGDRAGAN,
Appendix 1. This is a true copy of the text published at http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com/2009/11/sk-h018-dramatis-personae.html in mid-November 2009._________________________________________________________________________It has been clearly stated by the authorities that Hollie Greig is an entirely credible and valid witness, a fact upheld and substantiated by the payment of ‘Official Compensation’.The ‘Official Compensation’ was not requested but Justice was – The Compensation was accepted as an interim token of liability pending Justice, which would seem an extraordinarily long time coming.In the light of Hollie Greig being ‘Officially’ deemed a reliable and credible witness her allegations are listed below:
REDACTED Appendix 1 ends.
Appendix 2.This is a true copy of the text viewed at http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com/2010/03/ SK-H143-Scottish-Government-Cover-Up-of.html viewed on or about the 23rd of March 2010________________________________________________________________________SK Appendix 2 ends.
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Pitson, Michelle wrote:
Thank you for your e-mail which has been passed on to the Forest Local Policing team as Stroat where you state Greg Watkins is within the area that we Police.
Could you please confirm your address and telephone number and advise a good time to contact you to discuss the matter. In your e-mail you mention that the information is in the local press, if this is the case and the information is in the public domain then Greg watkins is not revealing any new information. However it would be more beneficial to speak to you by phone in relation to the matter.
PC 1933 Pitson
Enquiries Officer – Forest LPA
FromSent: 02 January 2013 13:54To: Contact Centre
Subject: Re: greg lance watkins
Thursday, 18 August 2011HOME COTTAGE, STROAT, NP16 7LR HOME COTTAGE, STROAT, NP16 7LR
WELCOME TO STROAT. If YOU have ANY information on the villiage of Stroat PLEASE contact the blog owner as soon as possible for it to be added.
HOME COTTAGE, STROAT, NP16 7LR
He has also displayed the young ladies details on this blog
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Contact Centre wrote:
Do you know where Mr Watkins lives? It will be the police force covering his address that need to be notified.
+Triservice Centre|Waterwells Drive|Quedgeley|GL2 2BP
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: 02 January 2013 12:15To: Contact CentreSubject: greg lance watkins
I wish to make a complaint about an on line blog run by a Mr Greg Lance Watkins in which he names people as pedophiles
The URL and the contents are detailed below and I believe this blog comments means the writer ,who is resident in the UK , is committing a criminal offense
http://www.independentproducerhandbook.co.uk/73/5b-contempt-and-reporting-legal-proceedings/reporting-legal-proceedings.html“Proceedings Involving Sexual Offences
Victims of the vast majority of sexual offences (including male rape) are guaranteed anonymity by the law, under the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 1992 and the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 1976 (as amended by the Criminal Justice Act 1988). Once the allegation has been made that a person has been the victim of such an offence, no matter may be published or broadcast which would be likely to lead members of the public to identify that person as someone against whom such an offence had been alleged to have been committed. Anonymity remains in force for the lifetime of the victim, ”
I understand that this written warning has been circulating widely in Ferryhill and Aberdeen at large!Paedophelia; Ferryhill;abuse;Aberdeen; Ferryhill;
ABERDEEN LOCAL PAEDOPHILE RING
You may be aware of the recent story published in the Press & Journal about Down`s Syndrome girl Hollie Greig, formerly Hollie Mackie. Further information is available from other media outlets and more extensively, on the Internet.
From the age of just six, Hollie was repeatedly sexually abused by her father, Denis Charles Mackie. Later, Mackie began sharing his daughter with a gang of paedophile “swingers” that has been operating in Aberdeen for many years and the identities of a further seven child victims are already known.
After 14 years of terrified silence, Hollie eventually told her mother, Anne, about the abuses in 2000 and formal statements were then made to Grampian Police, providing all the horrifying details and the names of the abusers, some of whom are listed below.
Many of the rapes by the gang were committed at the homes of Terry and Sylvia Major and that of Evelyn Buchanan, sister of Sheriff Buchanan.
Despite her condition, Hollie has been officially accepted as a competent and truthful witness by both medical experts and Grampian Police. That being the case, you may well wonder why the gang has not been arrested and jailed a long time ago.
We can only assume that its members included a police officer,
In 2009, after considerable pressure, the case was re-opened and Hollie again provided all the same details. Once again, after extensive private research, the case was blockedat the highest level. Mrs Angiolini has even claimed initially this time that she knew nothing about the case. This is a blatant lie, as can be proved by an MSP`s letter. When challenged, it appears that all documentation relating to the case has not only “disappeared” from Mrs Angiolini`s office, but also from the offices of MSPs Brian Adam and Richard Lochhead, who also corresponded with Mrs Angiolini back in 2000.
Although there has been considerable coverage, editors all over Scotland have been threatened with action by Mrs Angiolini`s taxpayer-funded legal team.
Grampian Police are also hopelessly compromised. It is already known that during the current investigation, key witnesses were not even questioned. Not only was
one of the rapists, but police officers
All of this has been made known to Chief Constable Colin MacKerracher. You may well ask if the Chief Constable does not care about Aberdeen children and those with learning difficulties being systematically raped by his officers, members of the judiciary and other professions, but he appears to have made it clear that his personal status and pension come first, despite chairing the NE Scotland Child Protection Committee. This appears to be breathtaking hypocrisy and demands immediate resignation. A recent report on children at risk in Moray was described by SNP MP Angus Robertson as “appalling” and NESCPC Chairman MacKerracher had no answers.
There are many other shocking aspects to this affair, including a likely murder in order to silence a witness, all shamelessly covered up or ignored by the authorities, including MSPs, who have been aware of this truly staggering case for many months.
This is likely to become the most terrible case of its kind in Scottish history and for the protection of neighbourhood children in Aberdeen, here is the list of the paedophiles thus far named.
REDACTED Clearly, given the high-level organised corruption that undoubtedly infects the city in order for such crime to flourish, it is difficult to know who to turn to. Perhaps your MP can help. It is important to know that all Aberdeen children are potentially at risk.
WARNING: THERE ARE PAEDOPHILE FIENDS IN FERRYHILL !!
‘Open the curtains, throw open the windows and permit the light of investigation and fresh air into family courts and sexual, emotional and physical abuse of the vulnerable – expose the abuse & the abuse of authority of those acting in OUR name!No child asked to be or enjoys abuse,it is for the gratification of the inadequate‘
This is Mr Watkins contact details
CONTACT DATA:.Posted by: Greg Lance-Watkins
DoB: 26-Jan-1946Chepstow, NP16 7LR, Monmouthshire, United Kingdoms.
tel: 01594 – 528 337
I understand an Mr Robert Green has already been arrested and jailed for this offense in Scotland last year
Can you please advise why Mr Watkins is not been charged ?
Can you please confirm recepit of this and a crime report number
StolenKids-Hollie: SK-H018 – DRAMATIS