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PostMon Apr 28, 2014 6:53 am » by Malogg

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Opalserpent wrote:
I see your argument middleman however it’s yet to be seen whether this is just rhetoric
or will actually clean up the organised pedo rings in england that are well rooted there.

Plus seriously, establishments knew about savilles sick tastes, People in high places
also knew about Epstiens Pedo Island, specially bill clinton, People knew about all
kinds of things but they don’t speak dare they rock the Cradle of Filth and luxury.

It came down to whistleblowers and victims to say something about it before
anyone would do something.
:look:

What will change really? I reckon it’s more about getting more
privileges to trawl the internet for information with the plausible deniability of
innocently searching for child porn on computers.

Nobody with any weight will get done, unless they step out of line. Even with the Saville revelations, what actually happened? Fuck all really. The public got served up some obvious tokens like Glitter and Rolf Harris, but nobody who matters.

It strikes me that these new pedo laws will allow them to get at people they couldn’t credibly accuse of terrorism. The rich and powerful will still be protected, but if you become an inconvenience, “oh look what we found on your computer, good luck defending yourself with no legal rights”.

Why should it strike you that pedophiles will be treated like terrorists but to put it another way > Ima absolutely appalled that pedophiles have not been subjected to a rope around their neck after been stomped apon for a lengthy period of time by the victims family and if the victim be an orphan the then public be given that option but better still let the pedophiles scream to HELL about their human rights that pedophilia is an illness yeap better still give them that choice so they can be lobotomized by Mr Magoo or Stevie Wonder and then sectioned indefinitely like all damn pedophiles within the system have tried to get done to anyone that exposes them for their most heinous of crimes

Any fucker that has child abuse porn or even view it on their or other folks CPU

they have no rights but one

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT

how can anyone have a problem with that?

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PostMon Apr 28, 2014 8:06 am » by Middleman

Malogg wrote:
Any fucker that has child abuse porn or even view it on their or other folks CPU

they have no rights but one

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT

how can anyone have a problem with that?

:cheers:

Either you believe in the rule of law, or you don’t.

Either you believe in due process, or you don’t.

Cameron’s proposal here is that just being accused of certain crimes means an automatic loss of rights. The government doesn’t have to prove you dun it before they start punishing you, and making it (much) harder to defend yourself.

If you don’t have a problem with that, ask yourself how you’d like to be treated if you were ever accused of such a crime. If they’re treating you the same as a terrorist, they can lock you up for months on end, without charge, and impose gag orders making it illegal for anyone to even tell your family what has happened to you.

Does that sound fair?

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PostMon Apr 28, 2014 1:53 pm » by missamandamanhattan

I will keep saying it – “They will start hunting each other.” This is what is happening. Arresting people who download how-to information is just the start. It is only lip service but all the people have to do is hold them to their word and ensure that the people who download the how-to stuff are actually arrested, charged and held in custody.

It isn’t much but at this stage it shows that the cabal/illuminati/whatever are paying attention and can see the need to take action – and public action at that.

When enough people keep up the pressure and keep at them – they have to be seen to be addressing the situation. Anyone who is not against Child Abuse – well …

Much Peace – Amanda

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PostMon Apr 28, 2014 2:28 pm » by iamanalien

this is just a front of taking rights away from normal people really ,first this then prison for just downloading an ebook , then it will be a free mp3 , as I say there just making sure they tie up every law just to use against you , there slowly screwing everyone and its happening around the world , cant print storys they get protection there taken away legal aid to the poor , everything they do is to screw the poor , and all this is because we caught them with there hands in the till its tit for tat and there win because they have the money , what do we get to have a go at them ohh yeah 1 shitty vote.

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PostMon Apr 28, 2014 2:58 pm » by Malogg

Middleman wrote:

Malogg wrote:
Any fucker that has child abuse porn or even view it on their or other folks CPU

they have no rights but one

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT

how can anyone have a problem with that?

:cheers:

Either you believe in the rule of law, or you don’t.

Either you believe in due process, or you don’t.

Cameron’s proposal here is that just being accused of certain crimes means an automatic loss of rights. The government doesn’t have to prove you dun it before they start punishing you, and making it (much) harder to defend yourself.

If you don’t have a problem with that, ask yourself how you’d like to be treated if you were ever accused of such a crime. If they’re treating you the same as a terrorist, they can lock you up for months on end, without charge, and impose gag orders making it illegal for anyone to even tell your family what has happened to you.

Does that sound fair?

Aye you have NO clue infact Ima state that you sound like you are for the nonces

Letter from Robert Green
Posted on April 28,

Dear S

Thank you for your message [on Email a Prisoner https://emaplogin.prison-technology-ser … country=uk) . Yes I do have some medication now, which does help although I feel my health is deteriorating. Still, I receive the most wonderful support from around the world and remain, as usual, in good spirits.

The wing of the prison in which I am held is very old-fashioned and I am in solitary confinement, locked up, for around 19 hours each day. The food is basic but adequate. We do not eat together but collect our meals and eat in our cells. There is around one hour’s exercise in the yard provided every day, but few facilities beyond that. Virtually all the books I have are ones that have been sent in by kind supporters.

My cell door is of solid steel and the window is more of a sky-light. Medical attention is difficult to obtain and it took three weeks to be even provided with a change of underwear and socks, but with outside pressure exerted on the governors, this situation has been corrected satisfactorily, although I do worry about other prisoners who do not enjoy the support I have.

My fellow-prisoners are very helpful and not at all what the outside world might imagine. I have no doubt that 75% of them should not ever be here. Last week, one of the inmates had been imprisoned here for 6 weeks for stealing a cream cake!

It must be said that the officers are of very high calibre, performing their duties with compassion, patience and professionalism. Of course, it can be a very dangerous occupation and their work ought to be properly appreciated by the outside world.

I hope this helps with your research.

Best wishes

Robert

This ‘introductory’ letter to someone who has just started supporting Robert is a good one on which to hang some additional facts or points about his current situation.

WINDOW-MORE-OF-A-SKYLIGHT: Robert has missed another beautiful spring as we are all enjoying, being unable to view daily so much as a blade of grass, for the second time in 2 years, for standing up to protect children & the disabled, not to mention the still-united UK’s justice-system, this is the reality of Robert’s and all our situation, please think about this long and deeply;

LACK OF MEDICAL ATTENTION: Despite having suffered from a heart–related problem & high blood-pressure Robert’s blood pressure has not been taken again since the doctor visited him on Friday 4th April. His solicitor is still waiting to receive copies of his medical records corroborating his historic heart condition over 4 weeks from when they were first requested;

BOOKS: Thank goodness as we know Robert enjoys reading or life inside would be bleak in the extreme. One book in particular he has mentioned twice in more or less daily phone-calls which has obviously impressed him is called ‘Ultimate Price’ and is about Christians in Nazi Germany who stood up to Hitler and paid a bitter price for that, yet in Scotland in 2014 no one, Christian or otherwise seems to have the guts to stand up to Alex Salmond – Salmond apparently trumps Hitler!

75% PRISONERS “SHOULD NOT EVER BE HERE”: This is a very worrying indictment of the justice-system in Scotland although may not be confined to Scotland. Robert himself is certainly one who “should not ever be here,” as the evidence supporting the current charges against him must be flimsy to the point of being non-existent, relating as it presumably does to private correspondence taken from his computer after it was seized in the latest raid on his house on 13th February. And by now he certainly should have been released on bail, had not the judge been informed at the third/latest bail application hearing on 19th March, for which he was not produced as for sure he would have objected to what was being said about him, that he had been leafleting outside Aberdeen Sheriff Court! He has written twice? 3 times? to the Procurator Fiscal, Andrew Shanks asking whether it was he who had given this totally incorrect information to the judge, Lady Wise? (no, this is not a made-up name). Robert hasn’t been anywhere remotely near Aberdeen since leaving Craiginches prison on 17th May 2012 up until his return on 13th February 2014 in the back of a police car!

And having cited a certain Dame to be a witness at his trial at Stonehaven in January 2012 which didn’t happen, what confidence can Robert have that he will manage to get his two current targets, the present Lord Advocate Frank Mulholland and chief suspect in the Hollie Greig abuse-case, Hollie’s father Denis Mackie into the witness-box at his forthcoming trial, whenever that will be?

He wants Mulholland to clarify to whom he is referring as “independent counsel” in typical response to correspondence on the part of MPs incited by their constituents to enquire into whether a young disabled woman’s allegations of having been abused during her childhood by her father and a group of his relatives and friends have any substance? that the allegations have been “thoroughly investigated” including by “independent counsel.”

This is a very relevant and hot topic in the Scottish legal world as Justice Minister Kenny MacAskill is right now being hauled over the coals for his attempt to do away with the cherished Scottish principle of ‘corroboration’ regarding any crime committed including rape (at the same time controversial, as how can a rape-victim easily find another victim or witness to corroborate an act that usually takes place well behind the bushes and at dead of night?)

And as to Denis Mackie in the witness-box – in our dreams! Denis Mackie himself, arch-villain that he is, has been conspicuous by his absence throughout the whole drama being played out in N-E Scotland 2000-2014 – note he Mackie himself has never complained about being named which is why I continue to name him, in reasonable security by now that he of all people will not react our accusations, nor yet Hollie’s older brother Greg, schooled by Mackie into raping Hollie from a young age.

Please continue to sign the Petition to get Robert released asap http://www.change.org/petitions/andrew- … e%20Robert

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PostMon Apr 28, 2014 3:02 pm » by Malogg

missamandamanhattan wrote:I will keep saying it – “They will start hunting each other.” This is what is happening. Arresting people who download how-to information is just the start. It is only lip service but all the people have to do is hold them to their word and ensure that the people who download the how-to stuff are actually arrested, charged and held in custody.

It isn’t much but at this stage it shows that the cabal/illuminati/whatever are paying attention and can see the need to take action – and public action at that.

When enough people keep up the pressure and keep at them – they have to be seen to be addressing the situation. Anyone who is not against Child Abuse – well …

Much Peace – Amanda

:hugging: Thankyou

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PostMon Apr 28, 2014 3:44 pm » by Mydogma

Middleman wrote:

Malogg wrote:
Any fucker that has child abuse porn or even view it on their or other folks CPU

they have no rights but one

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT

how can anyone have a problem with that?

:cheers:

Either you believe in the rule of law, or you don’t.

Either you believe in due process, or you don’t.

Cameron’s proposal here is that just being accused of certain crimes means an automatic loss of rights. The government doesn’t have to prove you dun it before they start punishing you, and making it (much) harder to defend yourself.

If you don’t have a problem with that, ask yourself how you’d like to be treated if you were ever accused of such a crime. If they’re treating you the same as a terrorist, they can lock you up for months on end, without charge, and impose gag orders making it illegal for anyone to even tell your family what has happened to you.

Does that sound fair?

the fact that they have not arrested the pedo cabal yet is testament to your point, these new laws only always apply to the herd, not the masters…add to the fact these faux gov agencies can access all of our computers and dump all sorts of files…then boast that they caught a dtv pedo ring…its really that easy…so until they go and arrest the bbc crowd and above….I will not believe their good intention…

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